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VOTE: New bid for Worthing sex shop

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Published Date:
13 November 2008
A SCATHING attack on Worthing Council's past refusals to allow a licensed sex establishment in Rowlands Road has been made by Kathleen Sutton, of the existing Secret Desires shop.
She told the Herald this week: "Worthing Council must not sit there and be biased," and she urged councillors to "get rid of their prejudices against something which does no harm to anybody".

Ms Sutton, director of parent company Shop Tonight, was speaking in support of her latest (and fourth) annual bid for the licence, which would allow the shop at 101 Rowlands Road to sell R18-rated porn films.

But Worthing Churches Together is again amassing support to oppose the application, which is due to be considered by Worthing licensing councillors next March.

Mainstream

Ms Sutton said the councillors were not elected to cast judgement on what was already legal. "There shouldn't be a debate on 'we don't like porn, or we don't like sex'.

"It is already on the high street, in the form of films like Zack and Miri Make a Porno.

"It's not up to councillors to say 'we don't want it'. Wake up, Worthing, we have a strip club now."

She added that things which campaigner Steve Stevens had warned against when Secret Desires had first opened, had not come about.

"There has not been a decrease in property price (due to the shop's location), and there has been no increase in crime."

Opposition

Worthing Tabernacle, in Chapel Road, is urging fellow members of the town's Churches Together to make their voices heard in opposing the application.

Tabernacle pastor the Rev Mark Weedon told the Herald yesterday: "Demand for a product or service does not legitimise its supply.

"Many have observed over recent decades the link between an increasingly permissive society and the consequent breakdown in marriages, an increase in unwanted pregnancies, rape, and so on.

"We are asking the council to continue to refuse Secret Desires' application for an R18 licence."

Steve Stevens and his wife are too ill to organise a petition this year, but he hopes that letters alone will do it.

Mr Stevens said: "The large numbers signing petitions in the last three years show very clearly that people who live in the area, and those who shop there, don't want a shop like this."

Have your say

Is it now time for Worthing to have a fully licensed sex shop?

The final vote results were: no – 40 and yes – 60

What do you think?

How ready is Worthing ready for a licenced sex shop now?

What affect would it have on the town?

Share your views, comment below, email the Herald or write in to Readers' Letters, Worthing Herald series, Cannon House, Chatsworth Road, Worthing, BN11 1NA.

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John_D,

WORTHING 13/11/2008 10:39:09
The ‘scathing attack’ by Kathleen Sutton on our Council’s refusal to allow a licensed sex establishment in Rowlands Road in this week’s (13th November 2008) Worthing Herald starts off by accusing Worthing council of being biased. And then argues the moral point that councillors should “get rid of their prejudices against something which does no harm to anybody”

Why is it that the Licensing Committee is not inundated with letters opposing the R18 licence for the Secret Desires shop? It is because under the Miscellaneous Provisions Act one cannot use moral arguments to refuse one!!

If moral grounds were permitted people would be citing countless research papers’ showing that extreme pornography does harm people. Furthermore Ms Sutton said the councillors were not elected to cast judgement on what was already legal. "There shouldn't be a debate on 'we don't like porn, or we don't like sex'. I might remind Ms Sutton that two councillors were asked to leave the council chamber last year for expressing those very sentiments and so were not allowed to vote – the Licensing Committee are constrained by law yet exercise their discretion as best they can within the limitations of the law for the good of Worthing.
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Worthing's "think for yourself" guardian,

13/11/2008 13:32:19
I think two major points are being misleading here in what is being cited by Mr Stevens and Worthing Tabernacle. First is that the 'countless research papers' involve 'extreme pornography'. This will include the higher end of the most unfathomable things (do I really need to paint a picture - just look at the subjects of some of channel 4's most controversial documentaries). These I suspect will not be gracing the shop. Also their arguments in relation to this application and the strip club. These formed a trail of narrow minded, ill-informed rubbish. I know a few of the girls and staff that work at the strip club for example and they are perfectly well rounded, kind, intelligent people. I also know people who frequent the sex shop again they are normal, hardworking parts of the community. No-one in this area will form the persona of whatever Mr Stevens and The Worthing Tabernacle are trying to paint of the people that will use these places. I personally am not interested in what these establishments have to offer, however we all have the right to choose. Of course this is only my opinion... feel free to attempt the moral/religious bullying towards me again as happened when i stood up for the strip club application.
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I only speak the truth,

Worthing 13/11/2008 13:36:15
The shop is not going away. It is legal. Why not make it licensed and then the windows will be frosted again, it will be discrete and under 18s won't be allowed to go in.
Surely, this is a no-brainer!
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John_D,

WORTHING 13/11/2008 18:12:33
I sometimes despair of the logic used in suggesting that a licensed sex shop is a better proposition than an unlicensed one (as at present). Of course the shop is legal – if it wasn’t it would be closed down. There is currently control on what can be displayed in any shop window. Not allowing under 18’s into a licensed shop does not prevent it from being an outlet in the town for R18 hardcore pornographic magazines and videos. Or am I missing the point and people really want easy access to buy this kind of material from a shop as well as the internet?
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I only speak the truth,

Worthing 14/11/2008 10:15:55
Of course JohnD, it's much better to allow 13 year olds into the shop, what are with THINKING!
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John_D,

WORTHING 14/11/2008 13:09:22
I fear once more the point is being missed. 13 year olds are allowed in the shop at the moment because the shop is only allowed to stock items which the law permits this age group to see. It is only when the shop stocks R18 material does the law deem it necessary to restrict access to the under 18’s. I don’t agree with this state of affairs but the law does not have an ear for moral arguments – it is simply an indication of the moral state of our nation.
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I only speak the truth,

Worthing 14/11/2008 13:43:08
Not missing the point at all. You're quite happy for children and young teenagers to see things that go buzz in the night, and 18 certificate items including "soft" pornography, but object to a shop being restricted to over 18s, purely because it's going to sell a few additional items. I'd rather see the kids kept out of the shop, no matter what it's selling. A license will give the council more control.
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Worthing's "think for yourself" guardian,

14/11/2008 14:08:01
Too right Truth!
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Cherubman,

14/11/2008 15:44:58
Personally, I resent the fact that churches I don't go to, who worship a god I don't believe in, are able to dictate to a council I pay for what legal material I can or can't watch. If Churches Together etc. are so worried about extreme porn, why don't they lobby the BBFC and OfCom to alter what kinds of things can be classified R18? Most people aren't actually bothered by the more extreme stuff, but they would like to watch a porno that doesn't cut away the moment the camera goes above someone's knee.
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John_D,

WORTHING 14/11/2008 17:53:41
Truth – you misjudge me when you say I am quite happy for children and young teenagers to see things that go buzz in the night . . . . I am not, although my main concern is the magazine and video side which has the ability to poison the mind. Also you hugely understate the case that getting an R18 licence will enable the shop to sell merely ‘a few additional items’. And simply keeping the kids out of the shop is no sure remedy to protecting them from the noxious material that will issue through the shop door if it is granted a licence. One last point - the council will have less control over what the shop sells if it has a licence.
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